End of The Road

A Podcast Exploring the Remote Reaches of Alaska

From those who have lived it

Stories and reflections on nature and place, in the Wrangells and the McCarthy community


Where the road ends, our stories begin


SEASON FOUR

Thanks to our supporters far and wide for making our Podcast possible!

This season’s podcast series features handpicked stories and poems from our 2023 programming including the Storytelling Festival and our bi-weekly Word Jams in the Old Hardware Store.

Available on Spotify and other podcast platforms


EPISODE 5- Finale

Of grief and loss

For this episode, we picked stories and poems that intimately professed our individual relationships with grief and loss. Storytelling has always been an intrinsic part of processing grief. It allows us to recollect the memories of a loved one, to learn about the parts of ourselves that maybe we hadn’t given much attention to. It allows us to build emotional connections with our listeners, who- I believe- will always be able to see themselves in the story being shared.
We hear from Colin Warren sharing a poem honoring a departed friend and McCarthy local, Jason Esler; Jeremy Pataky sharing a poem reflecting on the loss of our glaciers; Sabrina Simon shares a story in prose about losing her son Jude; and Katy Etterman shares a story about the grief she experienced during her professional career as an acrobat.

Quotes by Martin Prechtel (Grief as Praise), Francis Weller (The Wild Edge of Sorrow) and poem by Rosemary Wahtola Trommer (For When People Ask).

Special thanks to Cole Pampe and Richard Atmo for contributing their original music. You can hear Richard's original track here as well as hear more of his music on Bandcamp.


EPISODE 4

The Comedy of Injury

This episode tells stories of injury, embarrassments and debacles all with a comedic twist. Why are injuries and mistakes so funny? Maybe we'll never know for sure, but in the meantime, we'll keep laughing!
We hear from Julie Truskowski, Monte Montepare and Jon Erdman.
Special thanks to Cole Pampe for contributing his original music. 


EPISODE 3

Between you and i

Throughout this episode we take a look at the ways in which we experience being in relationships- with ourselves and with others. These stories and poems speak to the good, the bad, the ugly, and the in between of what it’s like to be in love, to be a friend, to be a first date and to be broken-hearted. We hear from Owen Mozen, Laura (a visitor from Talkeetna), Sabrina Simon, Mike Murphy, and Joey Boots-Ebenfield.
Special thanks to Cole Pampe and Graham_Makes for contributing their original music.
You can listen to the track provided by Graham_Makes here


EPISODE 2

Mccarthy made

We have an amazing line-up of well-known McCarthy residents including Barb Rice, Mark Vail, Mike Murphy, Michelle Latvala and Wendy Pollock featured in our second episode, McCarthy Made.

This episode speaks to the many ways in which McCarthy residents experience their home, from their discovery of this eccentric place, what it means to be a neighbor, to the meaningful ways in which they reflect on their experiences here.

Special thanks to Cole Pampe and Graham_Makes for their original music. As well as Brian Moore.

You can listen to the track provided by Graham_Makes here.


EPISODE 1

MOTHER AND ME

Welcome back to The End of The Road!

This episode features hand-picked stories and poems told by McCarthy locals and visitors throughout our 2023 summer programming including The Wrangell Mountains Storytelling Festival and our bi-weekly Word Jam events. These poems and stories speak to the profoundly integral relationship we humans each have with mother nature. We hear from Katy about her love of the natural world; from Mike about his relationship with mountains; from Krista on her love of trees; and from Luis about how he views the reciprocity of putting love into the Universe. 


Season Three

Thanks to our supporters far and wide for making our The End of the Road Podcast possible!

This season’s podcast series features handpicked stories from the 2022 Storytelling Festival in Kennicott-McCarthy.

 

Available on Spotify and other podcast platforms


episode 5

Moments In LIfe

Episode 5 is our last episode of the season in this storytelling series and features two stories told at the West Side venue. Madz shares a poignant, vulnerable story about a friend.

Nik Merlino our host and sponsor for the West Side event - owner of McCarthy River Tours & Outfitters and The Glacier View Campgound - tells a story about a sitcom-like moment in life with Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski.


episode 4

The Blue Hour

This episode features two stories from the west side during the twilight time of night as the light was starting to dim on that glorious evening in August at the Glacier View Campground. Folks began stepping up to the mic and sharing stories about sex, love, romance…and Justin Bieber. It was quickly dubbed “The Blue Hour.”

West Side resident Sophie Littee shares a story about a solo outing in Anchorage one winter evening that led to an intriguing opportunity crossing her path. And Brooke Harrington tells of a serendipitous experience in a Los Angeles sex shop with Justin Bieber.


episode 3

Carnivore Karma

Everyone loves a good Alaska bear story, and local McCarthy resident Dianne Milliard delivers a series of short stories that speak to the theme of Carnivore Karma, from our outdoor venue on McCarthy’s west side - the Glacier View Campground.

Also in this episode, visiting storyteller Madz, opened the storytelling festival at the Old Hardware Store with a story about her father and the San Fransisco Zoo, setting the tone for the entire 3-day event.


episode 2

Strange Circumstances

This episode features a story told by Amy Holonics in tribute to her father and their shared family roots in Hungary. She shares an experience from a time when life took her to the land of her ancestors where her father’s past was uncovered and an unfortunate twist of fate ends up having some unexpected happy consequences.

And Emma Stimpson takes us to a Popeye's Fast Food Drive-thru where some strange circumstances make for a very entertaining story. This is a story from the lockdown, a pandemic parable, if you will, with a twist at the end.


episode 1

Copper River Magic

In this episode, storytelling contest winner Bill Mann brought the house down and had us in stitches with his animated rendition about a Copper River fishing trip with his brother-in-law, our very own, Howard Mozen.

And Nancy Cook captivated the Old Hardware Store audience with her distinctive Nancy Cook style, telling of a magical Riversong trip with fellow artists down the Copper River.


Season Two

Made possible by a generous grant from the Alaskan State Council on the Arts

 

Available on Spotify and other podcast platforms


episode 8

McCarthy’s First Retail Cannabis Shop: Jenny Rosenbaum

In this episode, we talk with Jenny Rosenbaum about how she found McCarthy, why she made a home here, and we also asked her to give us the scoop on the cannabis shop that she is opening in McCarthy next summer.

Listen to Episode 8: McCarthy’s First Retail Cannabis Shop with Jenny Rosenbaum


episode 7

Diversity Is Our Strength: Cassidy Austin-Merlino

In this episode, we talk with local climate and social activist, Cassidy Austin-Merlino about climate and social justice issues, working to stop the Pebble Mine, how to make the outdoors more inclusive, and the steps our remote community can take toward solutions.

Listen to Episode 7: Diversity Is Our Strength with Cassidy Austin-Merlino


episode 6

The Ahtna & The Valley: Exploring the Story with Margot Higgins

Photo courtesy of Margot Higgins

Dr. Margot Higgins talks about her time with the Ahtna people and the impact the McCarthy-Kennicott community has had on local Indigenous communities. She shares her views of the world, her connection to place, and explains why the current narrative of the Kennicott River Valley may not be accurate.

Listen to Episode 6: The Ahtna & The Valley - Exploring the Story with Margot Higgins


episode 5

The 49 Chevy, with Steve Edwards

Steve and Maxine Edwards and The 49 Chevy - Photo courtesy of the Edwards Family

The vehicles of McCarthy have their own stories to tell. In this episode, we hear about life in the old ghost town era McCarthy through the eyes of a 49 Chevy, Maxine Edwards’ pride and joy. Maxine’s son Steve Edwards talks about his mother’s love of traveling, the time his dad took 60 days getting the 49 Chevy down the McCarthy railroad bed, and other adventures.

Listen to Episode 5: The 49 Chevy - Steve Edwards


episode 4

The Other Side Of Storytelling: Jack Dalton (Part two)

Photo by Dave Sabell: Jack Dalton

Professional storyteller Jack Dalton talks about The Other Side of Storytelling with WMC’s Executive Director, Jon Erdman.

This is Part Two of a lively discussion on the inner experience of being a storyteller, the power stories have to deliver tough messages in difficult places, and the wider definition of storytelling. 

Listen to Episode 4: The Other Side of Storytelling – Jack Dalton (Part Two)


episode 3

Confidence In Storytelling: Jack Dalton (Part One)

Storytelling

Jack Dalton Talks Tall Tales and The Power of Story

In this episode, professional storyteller, Jack Dalton, talks with WMC’s Executive Director, Jon Erdman, about the art of storytelling and the power of story.

Jack has traveled the world telling stories and competing in storytelling events. In this interview, he discusses what makes a good story, how stories come to him sometimes right as he’s walking on stage, and shares his perspective on our town and Tall Tales event. His hearty laugh and keen perspectives make this conversation lively and enlightening.

Listen to Episode 3: Confidence In Storytelling – Jack Dalton (Part One)


episode 2

Climbing The Cold Mountain Path: In Conversation With Tom Kizzia, Part Two

In this episode, Tom Kizzia takes us into the 1983 shootings in McCarthy that killed six of the town’s 22 residents. He focuses on Amy Ashenden, a lesser known victim of the shootings. We continue our conversation with author, Tom Kizzia, discussing his new book titled, Cold Mountain Path: The Ghost Town Decades of McCarthy-Kennecott, Alaska.

In his book, Tom preserves the  “Lost Years” of 1938-1983, and creates an opportunity to talk about these stories and how they impact the community. In our interview with Tom about his book, two themes emerged: how we approach and process the past (Part One), and in this episode we tie it together with reflections from Tom on Amy Ashenden’s life journey and her discoveries of impermanence.

Listen to Episode 2: Climbing The Cold Mountain Path – In Conversation With Tom Kizzia, Part Two


episode 1

Ghost Town: Tom Kizzia on cold mountain path, part one

In our first episode of Season Two we explore the Ghost Town decades of our Kennecott-McCarthy community in remote Alaska by way of an interview with author Tom Kizzia and his new book, Cold Mountain Path: The Ghost Town Decades of McCarthy-Kennecott, Alaska.

We discuss ghost towns and what that means as a metaphor, not just about the past but about how we process the past. Along the way we explore the harrowing stories and thoughts of Jim Edwards as well as our community's relationship with the Ahtna people and culture that predate the arrival of white development, by millennia.

Listen to Episode 1: Ghost Town — Tom Kizzia on Cold Mountain Path


 

Season One

 

Note: Podcasts are audio only; this video is only a visual preview

episode 4

Conflict and Community: The Story of Sally Gibert, Part 2

When Papa Pilgrim came to town, back in the early 2000s, tensions flared, bringing to a head decades of conflict between the National Parks Service and the community of private land holders in the Wrangell Mountains. With SWAT teams descending on the tiny town of McCarthy, the Pilgrim fiasco grabbed national headlines and ignited a nation-wide political mobilization. Behind the scenes, though, Sally would work with patience and collaboration to help bring about a shift that would change the perspective and culture of the National Parks Service and the community

Listen to Episode 4: Conflict and Community with Sally Gibert (Part Two)

 

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episode 3

abandoned alaska: through the lens of Paul Scannell

In the face of great personal loss, Irish photographer Paul Scannell leaves London and eventually finds his way to the Wrangells in remote bush Alaska. Skipping his flight home, Paul is drawn to the crumbling, abandoned places in the Wrangells and the stories that these remains suggest.

We discuss Paul’s journey. We talk iPhones and photography, and we hear readings from Paul’s new book, Abandoned Alaska: Copper, Gold, and Rust (2020).

Listen to Episode 3: Abandoned Alaska

 
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episode 2

Shaped by the wild: The Story of Sally Gibert

Shaped by the wilderness and the lawless town of McCarthy Alaska in the 1970s, Sally Gibert lived the frontier life in Alaska then went on to found a significant and impactful nonprofit and eventually helped shape the map of the state of Alaska. This is part one of two parts, exploring Sally's early adult life in the frontier town of McCarthy as she navigates local culture, faces the challenges of keeping warm during one of McCarthy's coldest winters, and engages with the grief of a town in the aftermath of a violent shooting. Part two explores Sally's state-wide impact through her work on land policy.….

Listen to Episode 2 with Sally Gibert

 

Note: Podcasts are audio only; this video is only a visual preview

episode 1

perspective, with ben shaine

Ben reflects on the ongoing natural cycles of catastrophe, regrowth and regeneration that he discovers as he walks through two stories from the Wrangells: an epic story of dinosaurs and deep time, and a story about the last hundred years in the McCarthy community. Ben's insights and contemplative cadence provide a much-appreciated perspective, a perspective that opens up a space for hope during times of tension and turmoil.

Listen to Episode 1 with Ben Shaine


At the Wrangell Mountains Center, we believe in the power of community and the stories we share. We create these podcasts with our neighbors and for our neighbors, exploring the places and stories that hold us together, particularly now, during times of tension and change.

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